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HotFish
23/Aug/06, 08:12 PM
I seriously hope that this means something more than what it say's, but i doubt it. Is this guy/girl Indian (which are Hindu or Sikh) - but i guess religon plays no part in this. But this motto is not very funny and is in the sickest of taste.

I have filed a complaint on this motto, i never do this normally but i suggest that if you can do it then do it.

http://live.xbox.com/en-GB/profile/profile.aspx?pp=0&GamerTag=KommyKnocker


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Killer 57
23/Aug/06, 08:17 PM
Damn Communist!

tidus04
23/Aug/06, 08:18 PM
I think it was raisedbyflames who commented about this in the poker room. But it is his view and is up to him. I see the problem in your view but then I dont care to be honest. If he wants to do that he can but then again all of Microsoft are basically american so they will kill him for doing so..

HotFish
23/Aug/06, 08:20 PM
I think it was raisedbyflames who commented about this in the poker room. But it is his view and is up to him. I see the problem in your view but then I dont care to be honest. If he wants to do that he can but then again all of Microsoft are basically american so they will kill him for doing so..

Now that's your point - but when you know a lot of people that were effected by this like i do then it sickens me.

phatmuther
23/Aug/06, 08:33 PM
i honestly dont have a problem with it, people just need a sense of humour

Raisedbyflames
23/Aug/06, 08:36 PM
i sent a complaint in but they never look

tidus04
23/Aug/06, 08:37 PM
Now that's your point - but when you know a lot of people that were effected by this like i do then it sickens me.


Isnt there such things as freedom of speach ect...

It is personal believes ect.. It may effect a lot of people but instead of thinking of this on your personal view think about it on there believes ect.. but if this guy could be somewhere where the americans have invaded which he might be then he was hate the americans for this.. Hence why he put that... Or something like that..

Thats how I am most of the time.

Raisedbyflames
23/Aug/06, 08:39 PM
their is such a thing as inciting racisim and hatred which goes against freedom of speach

tidus04
23/Aug/06, 08:41 PM
Is a "date" of a terrorist attack recist.. or inciting racisim as you put it..?

Raisedbyflames
23/Aug/06, 08:42 PM
his full quotereads 9/11 is my favorite holiday maening he celebrates it, so yes itis as its linked to hating americans

tidus04
23/Aug/06, 08:44 PM
But then is hating americans racism... ?

No so you cant really say he is being rasist.


It is a date of a terrible day. If he celbrates it that is up to him. I dont see why it is a major problem...But then I have never been good iof thinking of other peoples fealings.

Raisedbyflames
23/Aug/06, 08:45 PM
But then is hating americans racism... ?

No so you cant really say he is being rasist.


It is a date of a terrible day. If he celbrates it that is up to him. I dont see why it is a major problem...

dont bedafty your hole argument is flawed

TBS Trojan
23/Aug/06, 08:47 PM
the thing of the matter is it's not a funny or hilarious date. 2000 people got killed that is not funny in anyway what so ever. it wouldnt be funny if only one person died. i think he forgot about was karma. leave it to an indian to forget about something they believe in.

tidus04
23/Aug/06, 08:49 PM
This is an argument. I though it was a mere discussion o.O

If it is becoming one I will end it as I dont want it to become one.. I have my thoughts on it and you have yours. Lets leave it at that =]

Killer 57
23/Aug/06, 08:54 PM
Well, Tidus, you are saying that some one ridiculing a horrific day, There as showing zero regard or respect to the people that died and the families that were affected.

This is not a form of Freedom of Speech, It's a form of hate, The only point that person is getting across is that he hates Americans, and enjoyed seeing them die.

mjmaskrey
23/Aug/06, 09:06 PM
And we let him play with us?

Guy deserves some abuse...sadly there's many, many more Asians who openly express the same view. If we started celebrating those bomb attacks on their railways there'd be an outrage.

Like has been said, he's celebrating that day, celebrating a terrorist attack on innocent people, to him and others it's now like an unofficial Bank holiday. Get the family and friends round, have a nice meal, swap a few present and then watch re-runs of it on TV.

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damien©
23/Aug/06, 09:06 PM
But then is hating americans racism... ?

No so you cant really say he is being rasist.


Before I read the rest of the "discussion" I would like to point out that "Race" in UK Law is described as applys as much to the colour as it does to your nationality, your ethnic origin and your place of birth.

damien©
23/Aug/06, 09:10 PM
To summarise everything is this statement...

"One man's terrorist, is another man's freedom fighter"

However misinformed or unconcerned about this he see's the actions of that day probably fighting back from years of western opression.

People in Ireland celebrate alot of things that would be considered terrorism or treason against the UK but it provides a firm basis to their history.

tidus04
23/Aug/06, 09:29 PM
Well, Tidus, you are saying that some one ridiculing a horrific day, There as showing zero regard or respect to the people that died and the families that were affected.

This is not a form of Freedom of Speech, It's a form of hate, The only point that person is getting across is that he hates Americans, and enjoyed seeing them die.

Im streching it a bit but you never know what the Americans have done to him in the past to make him think this. We do not know.. IF nothing then he is wrong in saying it but liek I put it as, he has his own beliefs an that..

To put it I am not backing him up or saying he is right to do this but I am not trying to judge his views as I do not know what he may or not have have suffered to believe this if anything.

Killer 57
23/Aug/06, 09:32 PM
Leave Politics out of Gaming, Thats all I have to say about it.

brum
23/Aug/06, 09:36 PM
i see all sides of this but surely everyone agrees this person has done this just for this reaction and in should bad taste!

damien©
23/Aug/06, 09:40 PM
There is no Freedom of Speech....

This is a private service in which you subscibe to, you use it in accordance with Xbox/Microsoft's permission. It is up to them to say what's right... they are judge, jury and executioner.

Whether you agree with it is pointless, religious converstaion or statements is strictly forbidden. The fact that Microsoft is failing to take action should be the main concern rather than what he has wrote.

tidus04
23/Aug/06, 09:45 PM
Microsoft should take action on it..

padds78
23/Aug/06, 10:00 PM
Leave Politics out of Gaming, Thats all I have to say about it.

Thats all that has to be said!


Lets try and make this a happy place to be:D Everybody is entitled to there opinion and everybody has had theres! So lets all play nice! Thanks:D :D :D


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