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Tobes
16/Jul/06, 01:02 AM
Link (http://go.theregister.com/feed/http://www.theregister.com/2006/07/15/ntia_inquiry_results/)

Thank the heavens for that.

Now if your not to familiar with the US when it comes to games and the Internet Then you might want to do a little reading. They have have a politician by the name of Jack Thompson. Now Mr T would like the world to be a better place. Why does he think the world isn't. Ahh that would be because of video games. See Mr T hates games. His idea of a game would be where you would be a flower and grow. You wouldn't die though as most flowers do. Cause that's just crazy violence. Mr T is somehow managing to pass a law where if a child buys a game and is under the age of that game. That kid's going to get a nice fine.

I have gone way off topic. But my reason is this. If Mr T can manage to get that bill passed then what can other people do if America controls the net?

IMO the net is about free speech. Now I'm lucky I'm not Chinese cause if I was I wouldn't be able to view www.bbc.co.uk/news cause the WHOLE of china's net goes through a massive firewall which blocks any website which the government doesn't like.

So what would be your views if America controlled the net? I'm not saying America is bad or anything btw. I just don't think they should have the right to own the internet. Just like they don't own the moon.

BTW if I have any of the facts wrong feel free to put me right. :)

phatmuther
16/Jul/06, 01:09 AM
Link (http://go.theregister.com/feed/http://www.theregister.com/2006/07/15/ntia_inquiry_results/)

Thank the heavens for that.

Now if your not to familiar with the US when it comes to games and the Internet Then you might want to do a little reading. They have have a politician by the name of Jack Thompson. Now Mr T would like the world to be a better place. Why does he think the world isn't. Ahh that would be because of video games. See Mr T hates games. His idea of a game would be where you would be a flower and grow. You wouldn't die though as most flowers do. Cause that's just crazy violence. Mr T is somehow managing to pass a law where if a child buys a game and is under the age of that game. That kid's going to get a nice fine.

I have gone way off topic. But my reason is this. If Mr T can manage to get that bill passed then what can other people do if America controls the net?

IMO the net is about free speech. Now I'm lucky I'm not Chinese cause if I was I wouldn't be able to view www.bbc.co.uk/news cause the WHOLE of china's net goes through a massive firewall which blocks any website which the government doesn't like.

So what would be your views if America controlled the net? I'm not saying America is bad or anything btw. I just don't think they should have the right to own the internet. Just like they don't own the moon.

BTW if I have any of the facts wrong feel free to put me right. :)
thats good though (Y)

america = power hungry, they will "control" the net one day (:/)

damien©
16/Jul/06, 01:22 AM
Well the fact is that America already owns the Internet, it's a body of the US Department of Commerce. It's run by a company called ICANN.org it operates through a Memordum of Understanding which is up to them to parties to agree own.

I personally think no nation should have control over the Internet, I think it should be a purely independant organisation getting it's finances from Domain Registars.

On the issus of games, it's the same as films would you let a 10 year old watch a bloody voilent 18 Rated film? No, of course you wouldn't, so why do some people do it with games. It's just common sense!

Why do people have to make things so complicated! Why restrict the masses just because of the few!

Edit: Also on the Issue of China I think that's what happens when you let nations run their own Internet. They can "protect" us from the truth! (:/)

Tobes
16/Jul/06, 12:28 PM
On the issus of games, it's the same as films would you let a 10 year old watch a bloody voilent 18 Rated film? No, of course you wouldn't, so why do some people do it with games. It's just common sense!


We don't fine the kids, we fine the person who sold them the over age dvd/game. When I was under 18 I used to go buy 18+ games all the time because I completely forgot about the rating on the back. It's not something I think or when I'm choosing a game.

I once got IDed for DOA Extreme beach volleyball... I was underage and had to get my mum to buy it lol. What did wizz me right off though is the guy who served me laughed when I went to buy it. ---- head.

smileemptysoul
18/Jul/06, 04:45 PM
well we did kinda make it

phatmuther
18/Jul/06, 04:50 PM
well we did kinda make it
well then give us all of america's cars, the british invented the car, therefor we own them!
see, doesnt quite work like that, does it

Tobes
18/Jul/06, 04:53 PM
We made the sandwich but you don't see us telling Americans how to make them.

smileemptysoul
18/Jul/06, 04:53 PM
well if the eropean union is working on thatthey get there way every truck and gun in my town will be illiagle

smileemptysoul
18/Jul/06, 04:54 PM
besideds we have the only ones wotrh it. american muscle cars and trucks

Tobes
18/Jul/06, 04:57 PM
???

European cars have good handling plus we have something called manual gears. :)

smileemptysoul
18/Jul/06, 05:01 PM
muscle cars are raw torque. trucks are raw torque. thats all that maters. eruo cars have no ware near the torque of a Rouse Mustang, or a gto and man mustange handle well

phatmuther
18/Jul/06, 05:01 PM
we still invented the car, american muscle or not, its the same thing, so, give em back :D

smileemptysoul
18/Jul/06, 05:03 PM
ok but u can't keep trucks there ours

crashlock
18/Jul/06, 05:08 PM
http://origin.arstechnica.com/journals/thumbs.media/mr-t.jpg

Mr T loves computer games - what the hell!?? He even went to E3 about 4 years ago.:)

smileemptysoul
18/Jul/06, 10:27 PM
we still invented the car, american muscle or not, its the same thing, so, give em back :D
germany inveted the car engien. marcadies had the first concept and the modal a ford was the first completed production car.

anyway america does not have control of the internet it is an international resorce all america can do is control what americans can do on the internet

damien©
18/Jul/06, 10:34 PM
anyway america does not have control of the internet it is an international resorce all america can do is control what americans can do on the internet

Not true, as I pointed out ICANN is a "company" of the US Department of Commerce and works via an Agreement set out by both parties.

ICANN Control the use and domain of Internet address! Therefore in theory one could remove access to a certain website via the US Government.

smileemptysoul
18/Jul/06, 10:39 PM
well then u better be nice to us. 2 words. nuckler ing weapons. u can have all the democricy u want but what is ours stays ours.

damien©
18/Jul/06, 10:43 PM
well then u better be nice to us. 2 words. nuckler ing weapons. u can have all the democricy u want but what is ours stays ours.

No one likes a bully... aslo if history has taught us anything it is that "the higher you climb... the faster you fall". The US's power over the rest of the world will soon decease and will probably end the way it started from the UK. Sweet Dreams, [removed]!

smileemptysoul
18/Jul/06, 10:46 PM
Well the eagle's been flying slow, and the flag's been flying low,
and a lot of people's saying that America's fixing to fall.
But speaking just for me and some people from Tennessee,
we got a thing or two to tell you all.
This lady may have stumbled but she ain't never fell.
And if the Russians don't believe that they can all go straight to hell.
We're gonna put her feet back on the path of the righteousness
and then God bless America again.
And you never did think that it ever would happen again.
In America, did you?
You never did think that we'd ever get together again.
Well we damn sure fooled you.
We're walking real proud and we're talking real loud again
in America.
You never did think that it ever would happen again.

From the sound up in Long Island out to San Francisco Bay,
and ev'ry thing that's in between them is our home.
And we may have done a little bit of fighting amongst ourselves,
but you outside people best leave us alone.
Cause we'll all stick together and you can take that to the bank.
That's the cowboys and the hippies and the rebels and the yanks.
You just go and lay your head on aPittsburgh Steeler fan
and I think you're gonna finally understand.

charly danials


honestl i hope this trend gets closed couse i just got back fromt the gym and i am to damn tried to come up with my own words

Raisedbyflames
18/Jul/06, 10:55 PM
we invented the english language we should charge everyone who uses it

smileemptysoul
18/Jul/06, 10:57 PM
good i talk in american we speak similar lanquages but y'all rekon and words lik that are american

Raisedbyflames
18/Jul/06, 10:59 PM
i was just making a compasison to the internet

smileemptysoul
18/Jul/06, 11:02 PM
well amrica dosent charge u companys do i'm pretty sure most are amrican based companys but that is not our country

phatmuther
18/Jul/06, 11:15 PM
so your saying nukes are good?
and your saying that you dont speak english?

your a fool then

Killer 57
18/Jul/06, 11:25 PM
No one likes a bully... aslo if history has taught us anything it is that "the higher you climb... the faster you fall". The US's power over the rest of the world will soon decease and will probably end the way it started from the UK. Sweet Dreams, Fcuker!

Haha nice, you just ruined any points you tried to make with that Idiotic statement.

damien©
18/Jul/06, 11:34 PM
Haha nice, you just ruined any points you tried to make with that Idiotic statement.

Yea I argree, probably should take that out... Just don't like arrogant people, then again there's a thin line between being arrogant and patriotic.

crashlock
19/Jul/06, 12:45 AM
But speaking just for me and some people from Tennessee,
we got a thing or two to tell you all.
This lady may have stumbled but she ain't never fell.

What about Nam? I'd say America fell over when the last chopper left Vietnam in 75. You lost a 16 year war with the North Vietnamese.
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n95/crashlock/Random/5b7ed23d.jpg

I have some American friends and think there is some really great parts and people there. But Americans on the whole are so inward looking (75% of Americans don't own passports). smileemptysoul your a pretty good example. If they cultured themselves, they might just begin to recover some respect and work better with the rest of the world.(:/)

Demi-God
19/Jul/06, 02:02 AM
This has turned into a match off against America. And I declare the winner, nobody!

crashlock
19/Jul/06, 04:49 AM
Sorry that was just my reaction to his post.

xXDuBzXx
19/Jul/06, 06:21 PM
That is F#$%ed up!! I live in america and that is complete bull#$%#!! The internet is global. It should not be restricted at all.

damien©
19/Jul/06, 06:53 PM
That is F#$%ed up!! I live in america and that is complete bull#$%#!! The internet is global. It should not be restricted at all.

Well then you agree it would be better if the US removed any form of control in which they have over the Internet.

smileemptysoul
19/Jul/06, 07:31 PM
ok in vietnam we didn't lose we packed up an left. and when i said i don't speak english i speak american if i'm lieing i'm dieing. we talk difrently we spell (color, coulor or how ever u spell it) difrently ya it is very similare but it ain't the same. go to texas ur see right away. i don't own a ing passport becouse i can't even agrea with peaple from my own country if i leave for any other 1 i'm going to jail garentied i'll get into a fight. passports explained?
with nam why fight to save a country who don't want it. i don't think we should be in iraq for the same reason. kiss my ass u god damn eropeans

damien©
19/Jul/06, 07:35 PM
ok in vietnam we didn't lose we packed up an left. and when i said i don't speak english i speak american if i'm lieing i'm dieing. we talk difrently we spell (color, coulor or how ever u spell it) difrently ya it is very similare but it ain't the same. go to texas ur see right away. i don't own a ing passport becouse i can't even agrea with peaple from my own country if i leave for any other 1 i'm going to jail garentied i'll get into a fight. passports explained?
with nam why fight to save a country who don't want it. i don't think we should be in iraq for the same reason. kiss my ass u god damn eropeans

You don't speak American, you speak a sub-category of English. It is surprisingly refeered to as American English.

Also Vietnam, you didn't lose. That's someway true but not totally, you left because you realised you couldn't win.

Passport issue is irrelavant.

"kiss my ass u god damn eropeans"... that's not very nice.

mitchw01
19/Jul/06, 08:37 PM
America did not invent the internet it was created by a group of scientists in switzerland so they could comunicate with each other between stations like LOST America took this premise and altered certain parts and claimed ownership.

There are alot of american people i know who are sound but most only travel within the us and do not know anything about different cultures you are under a big brother style grasp not so different from china. Americans need to wake up and realise there are other people other than themselves in the world. and how you 'smilee' want us to 'kiss your ass just shows your linear mentality

xXDuBzXx
20/Jul/06, 03:10 AM
Big D, are you here to critisize peoples replys?

damien©
20/Jul/06, 07:42 AM
Big D, are you here to critisize peoples replys?

It's looking that way... :zip:

xXDuBzXx
20/Jul/06, 09:07 PM
lol :p ... make it constructive!

crashlock
20/Jul/06, 09:25 PM
ok in vietnam we didn't lose we packed up an left.

Denial'o'meter alert!

kiss my ass u god damn eropeans

Love your intelligent closing line. And the spelling even squeezed out some laughter tears.:'( :D