View Full Version : New FIFA Rankings
Killer 57
12/Jul/06, 05:27 PM
http://www.fifa.com/en/mens/statistics/index/0,2548,All-Jul-2006,00.html
1 Brazil
2 Italy
3 Argentina
4 France
5 England
6 Netherlands
7 Spain
8 Portugal
9 Germany
10 Czech Republic
phatmuther
12/Jul/06, 05:30 PM
brazil!?
number 1?!
italy just WON the world cup!
which means they're the best in the world if im not mistaken, whats the point of the world cup then?
Killer 57
12/Jul/06, 05:32 PM
They STILL have USA ahead of Mexico, unbelievable.
Hanley
12/Jul/06, 05:36 PM
At least they're not ranked in 5th now. Crikey, England 5th - somethings definitely wrong.
phatmuther
12/Jul/06, 05:41 PM
surely the world cup would be the way to rank teams :unsure:
1. italy
2. france
3. germany
4. portugal
etc
etc
Killer 57
12/Jul/06, 05:46 PM
Nah I don't think that would work, since some teams had an easier rout then others.
The ranking is based on points per match, for the last 4 years i don't understand why England is number 5?
Killer 57
12/Jul/06, 05:51 PM
What FIFA needs to use if a variation of the Elo rating system, which is based on Who you beat, and Who you lose to.
Say for Example, Mexico beats Jamaica, they won't gain much points from that since Jamaica would have a low Elo rating, and Mexico lose to Argentina, they won't lose much points since Argentina have a higher Elo rating then Mexico.
phatmuther
12/Jul/06, 05:54 PM
but still, c'mon italy SHOULD be number 1, right?
Killer 57
12/Jul/06, 05:57 PM
but still, c'mon italy SHOULD be number 1, right?
Like RiLu@ said, the ratings are based on 4 Year Span, Brazil has had a Much better 4 years then Italy, Italy jumped 11 places which shows they weren't impressive during qualifying.
phatmuther
12/Jul/06, 06:03 PM
doesnt matter, they're still the world champions!
but then this says they're not!
its stupid
Killer 57
12/Jul/06, 06:05 PM
doesnt matter, they're still the world champions!
but then this says they're not!
its stupid
This doesn't say they are not World Champions, it just says they are not the Best Team in the World.
phatmuther
12/Jul/06, 06:08 PM
its the same thing!
you win the world cup > your the best team in the world
you win the superbowl > your the best team in america
you win the premier league > your the best team in england
so on and so on
The ranking is for all games, if a team comes to the world cup and wins it doesn't mean it's the best team.
The ranking is used to setup the world cup groups, qualification groups and so on.
backin-strachan
12/Jul/06, 06:16 PM
Italy were pants during qualifying. I am sure they got beat of Moldovav abd Belarus!!!
Now wheres Scotland:p
Killer 57
12/Jul/06, 06:21 PM
Now wheres Scotland:p
41 from your former 59 spot.
AfroJoe
12/Jul/06, 06:29 PM
As I said, Mexico are now a VICTIM of the system rather than beneficiaries. Which kind of sucks.
Scotland 41st is far more accurate than 59th like we were before.
They're still strange, though. Paraguay have gone up from 35 to 19 after a disastrous World Cup. :s
backin-strachan
12/Jul/06, 07:40 PM
Not bad, when you think about it thats fairly correct. Coming up in the world:p
Uriel Septim
12/Jul/06, 08:25 PM
come on England upto 5th we must be getting better but slowly
gashead
12/Jul/06, 09:49 PM
lol. Nigeria and Cameroon are 11th and 12th and they didn't even qualify for the world cup!
phatmuther
12/Jul/06, 09:54 PM
like i said, the ranking system, i think, is waaaaaay wrong :)
Killer 57
12/Jul/06, 09:57 PM
Yeah but I bet Cameroon would habd USA ass in a silver plater yet they went to to the World Cup.
phatmuther
12/Jul/06, 09:59 PM
yeah, probably :D
AfroJoe
12/Jul/06, 10:35 PM
Cameroon are actually a really good team, and unlucky not to qualify for the World Cup.
12th in the world, though? No chance.
Killer 57
12/Jul/06, 10:37 PM
Cameroon are actually a really good team, and unlucky not to qualify for the World Cup.
12th in the world, though? No chance.
Let me guess, Scotland should be there instead of Cameroon? You English are so predictable.
I just watched a Baseball game so I'm in Hick Mode.
AfroJoe
12/Jul/06, 10:39 PM
Hehe, nah, I think 41st is actually pretty fair for us right now. :)
They should have poules, aka teams like Brazil, Argentina and France in poule a and teams like Scotland, Greece and Cameroom in Poule B etc..
It seems like you get the same amount for beating anyone whether it's Brazil or Honduras, why else are USA so near the top? how many top teams did they beat in the last year?
For example you should get 10 for beating Brazil and 1 for beating Macedonia, it makes sense, obviously based on where the team is, I mean someone like China should get more than 1 point for beating Macedonia..
But it's kinda hard to explain because the system itself must be impossible to get right hence why the rankings are mince.
-Deki-
13/Jul/06, 12:45 PM
Let me guess, Scotland should be there instead of Cameroon? You English are so predictable.
I just watched a Baseball game so I'm in Hick Mode.
Sorry, but please don't call us Scottish, 'English' it is the ultimate insult. I take it you are Mexican (???) how would you like me to be ignorant and call you an American.
Back on topic, we all know the FIFA rankings are a disgrace/farce/un-true so I don't pay that much attention to them.
phatmuther
13/Jul/06, 12:50 PM
Sorry, but please don't call us Scottish, 'English' it is the ultimate insult. I take it you are Mexican (???) how would you like me to be ignorant and call you an American.
and whats wrong with being english? or american? or even mexican or scottish?
backin-strachan
13/Jul/06, 01:07 PM
Well I hate getting called English!!! Why well maybe because Im Scottish.
Killer trying to wind us all up. Stupid Arabain fool
:p
AfroJoe
13/Jul/06, 02:45 PM
Haha.
Yeah, Kalou, it's more because the system is pretty much impossible to implement properly rather than FIFA doing anything particularly wrong.
It's not their fault the rankings suck. It's their fault for continuing on with them when they know that they suck.
rydo-uk
13/Jul/06, 05:22 PM
Lol hes scottish u noob :p
wooo scotland are up 18 ranks anyway :)
Killer 57
13/Jul/06, 08:49 PM
Well I hate getting called English!!! Why well maybe because Im Scottish.
Killer trying to wind us all up. Stupid Arabain fool
:p
Haha the funny thing is I do look a bit Arabian :D
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