Xbox 360 Modchip?

[xXDuBzXx]

Sweet :cool: this I might get, well after my warrenty is over lol. if I am not allowed to talk about this on here please close, delete this thread.
will anyone else be getting the new chip?

http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=28537

[damien©]

I might get a Modchip for my 2nd xbox 360 (when I get it) but I won't be connecting it to Xbox Live.

I'm personally not interested in Piracy of Xbox 360 Games although I do like the idea of Homebrew Software, Hard Drive from PC Access, Larger Hard Drives, Emulators (Old Games), etc

[xXDuBzXx]

same here. cough. free360gam3z. cough.

[Mant]

Careful with what gets mentioned in this thead peeps. Treading a fine line from being closed. Homebrew talk is fine, but please dont discuss any piracy.

Yarrr!

[xXDuBzXx]

k =) understood. I really want to see some of the apps that come out for the 360 after the chip is out, i heard talk of linux on the 360... but i dunno

[damien©]

Careful with what gets mentioned in this thead peeps. Treading a fine line from being closed. Homebrew talk is fine, but please dont discuss any piracy.

Yarrr!
No I'm serious, I don't like piracy as you can easily get Jap/Asian games for about £25.

I only noticed recently with all the software they developed for the Xbox and was really impressed!

[mjmaskrey]

Emulators and XBMC ftw!

:)

[crashlock]

Mod chips are evil. People should refuse to use them and they should be made illegal once put into the machine. Anyone who uses them is an asshat! :(

[damien©]

Mod chips are evil. People should refuse to use them and they should be made illegal once put into the machine. Anyone who uses them is an asshat! :(

Why?
I know they can be used for Piracy and Modding Games but I'm not personally interested in that, I do like the idea strongly of Homebrew software and other modifications such as Cosmetic and Programming!

[xXDuBzXx]

I h8 the idea of modding gamez

[crashlock]

Why?
I know they can be used for Piracy and Modding Games but I'm not personally interested in that, I do like the idea strongly of Homebrew software and other modifications such as Cosmetic and Programming!


I can't stand homebrew. Cosmetic the most. It's like boi racers. They think there making it look cool but they just rip the class out of the car.. Very rarely do you see a good example of good modding. Shall I explain why? Well the people who design cars, well they train for years and years before there are let loose designing a car (accept Hyundai-& Malaysian crap companies).
There are teams of people who pour over every line of the car. When you go to buy the car that car has been refined and refined so many times. So when people try and play Car Designer, they interrupt the original design that went into the car. And ok say you don't like the lines of a car. THEN DON'T BUY IT.
When it comes to 360 cosmetic work it's normally done by the same asshats that do it to PCs. I have yet to see a classy PC cosmetic mod. No one seems to be getting close to the classy level than companies like Apple set. The reason for that is because it's the same as boi racers. People think just because they can change something, then they can do better than the professional designer.

Programming wise I think it's just geekish. It's like just enjoy the games that come out for the console. If you want to play a different game go to the system that has it. Don't spend hours/days/weeks programming mods that ultimately will contribute to piracy.(M)

Modding is for asshats.

[damien©]

I'm sorry but I don't agree....

Cosemetic mods are designed to suit the individual not the masses it's customisation for yourself.

Homebrew Software and Programming is the same, your creating/designing or implementing products or services into a already good system and improvements that you think will enhance your experience of the item.

It's not a case of destroying a console and rebuilding it yourself its more like extend the consoles already good standing.

A bit of a Leap but compare it too houses, why do people extend their houses? If they want a bigger house they should sell it? Right or Not?

[phatmuther]

XBMC is the best thing since sliced bread, they should officially release with the 360, microsoft would make a mint

[crashlock]

I'm sorry but I don't agree....

Cosemetic mods are designed to suit the individual not the masses it's customisation for yourself.

Homebrew Software and Programming is the same, your creating/designing or implementing products or services into a already good system and improvements that you think will enhance your experience of the item.

It's not a case of destroying a console and rebuilding it yourself its more like extend the consoles already good standing.

A bit of a Leap but compare it too houses, why do people extend their houses? If they want a bigger house they should sell it? Right or Not?

People extending their house. Who do they ask to do this? A builder maybe? :brow:

Designing to suit yourself, 9 x 10 it looks awful. There are rules to design that people who train to be a designer learn. These rules generally make sure that ugliness is avoided. Unless your a product designer then i suggest you don't mess with your 360. Unless you really want it to look like something from Doctor Who.
:sick:

[padds78]

What is xbmc? Should i know this:$

[Killer 57]

What is xbmc? Should i know this:$

Thats because you're a good boy Padds.

[Tobes]

XBMC is one of the best homebrew apps out for the Xbox. It's basically Windows Media Center. It's flexible and allows you to control all media from your xbox... or any other device which is on the network. You can watch trailers for movies, listen to your music with cool flippy trippy visualizations. If you have a modded xbox you HAVE this program.

Plus you have surreal 64 which is a N64 emulator.

I love the homebrew scene for the xbox and it's nothing to be scared of. Sony understand this with the PS3 (linux). Microsoft understand it but we know it will NEVER happen with them.

A lot of interesting data came out of Ars Technica's interview with Matt Lee, a Microsoft software developer in the Xbox division. The nice thing about Matt Lee was that when the interview was over, he answered some questions in the discussion. A lot of it was clarifying points he made in the main article, but then he shared this story with us:

"...allow me to share a related story. A little over a year ago, one of the people in my group modded an Xbox, installed Avalaunch(info), and put all sorts of Xbox mod scene apps on the box, like XboxMediaCenter(info), RSS readers, etc, along with some "backup" games. He brought this box along to a meeting with Bill Gates. Bill saw a demo of this, was quite impressed, and asked something along the lines of "How can we engage this community?" - instead of saying something like "How can we squash this?" It's long been on the back of everyone's minds in the Xbox group - how can we get students and hobbyists involved without disrupting the console business model? The good news is that it's still on the radar, we'll see what happens in the future."

[backin-strachan]

Honestly not too interested in this. And if MS ever find out, could you not get in some serious trouble:p

But the thought of emulators is good but you can use your PC. Whats wrong with that

[Blaze Lord]

You think homebrew apps are for asshats because you don't want to break the lines of the 360, and it might look Doctor Who-ish.

..Okay.

Personally, I'm with (what seems like) everying else. XBMC, a homebrew app, is so good that Microsoft copied it (and gimped it) for the 360. I think there's a whole lot of proof in that pudding.

Nothing's wrong with that, BS, but it's your 360. If you want to use it to play some old school games with the 360 controller on your home theater system, instead of your PC monitor, that choice should be completely free and yours.

Actually, Sony understands homebrew in full force. They've made homebrew kits specifically for guys-in-the-garage since PS1, iirc.

[damien©]

People extending their house. Who do they ask to do this? A builder maybe? :brow:



Not neccesairly, What if your a Builder yourself? or an Apprentice and you can get one of your workmates to give you hand!

My point being most people don't just like bog standard they want something different. They want all there stuff to have all the latest gear, and this extends to peoples 360's. Obviously this doesn't apply to everyone but if people want to display the inside of their Xbox 360 or Run XBMC or Emulators or whatever.

Why shouldn't they be allowed, there not asking anyone else to foot the bill they will pay for it themselves and Microsoft trying to stop them is stupid. I agree Piracy and Game Modding are issuses but just concentrate on them, not people who have tweaked their console to their own style!

Different People want Different Things, and it will always be that way!

[Blaze Lord]

Why shouldn't they be allowed, there not asking anyone else to foot the bill they will pay for it themselves and Microsoft trying to stop them is stupid. I agree Piracy and Game Modding are issuses but just concentrate on them, not people who have tweaked their console to their own style!

The problem is it's very hard to separate these two out. And, if you're MS, who would you rather off? Homebrewers, or Publishers losing money on pirates?

[damien©]

The problem is it's very hard to separate these two out. And, if you're MS, who would you rather off? Homebrewers, or Publishers losing money on pirates?

Although I agree, Microsoft would obviously prefer to get rid of the two, hoever if as one of the Firmware Hackers it would be easy for MS to know who had modified the Firmware. Surely they would be able to find out if either

-Storing Full GAmes on your Hard Drive
-Modified Original Game Content

Now if MS concetrated on that, they could satisfy the publishers aswell as giving "modders" the oppurtunity to develop programs to run on the Xbox 360. Granted it could become hard for MS to monitor this but the solution would be through Xbox Live Permant Bans.

However in the end Microsoft have to realise, along with everyone else they will never be able to defeat Piracy. Just reduce it's impact!

[Blaze Lord]

That would involve scanning and verifying hundreds of megabytes for every user. It's loads easier to just do a BIOS check, and maybe a serial number check on certain parts.

[damien©]

That would involve scanning and verifying hundreds of megabytes for every user. It's loads easier to just do a BIOS check, and maybe a serial number check on certain parts.

Very good point, although they wouldn't have to check the programs individual, a mandatory update could require a program to run on your Xbox 360 to see for those stated things, but again this could constitute as Invasion of Privacy, so it's a hard choice but who cares I don't have to make it.

If I did have a modded Xbox 360 I wouldn';t be using on Xbox Live anyway, incase some mandatory update messed it all up!

[derekm91]

i hate people who mod on xbox live and i wont be getting the chip, i dont feel like messing up my 400 dollar investment!

[Killer 57]

You put the chip in and you get 3 Red Lights you're screwed.

[rydo-uk]

lmao i wonder what you would be like if that happend :s you would go phyco lol

[Tobes]

You put the chip in and you get 3 Red Lights you're screwed.

That's why you do it when the warranty is finished or if your confident you 360 is going to survive. Remember if you are going to put a chip in it you have opened it up so if there's a problem there's a good chance you you fix it yourself.

[[DODart]IEC]

I may look into this in the future, i'm not interested in xbox live so that area isn't a problem but i do want to play imported games. TBPH i can't see why microsoft would have a problem with those people like me who wnat to chip the 360 to play games from other regions... I'm still gonna buy official games from usual websites...

[xXDuBzXx]

The first sign of a modchip!!! http://www.modchip.com/xbox360/

The only mod thing I know how to do is hook a bigger hard drive up the the 360 through the original HD slot, not an external.You basiclly unscrew your harddrive (Voiding any warrenty you have on it) and plug in a bigger hard drive, I saw a pic of a guy with 451 GB of space left on his HDD and everyone was in awe. Hell, I might just buy a second HDD and mod it with a 160GB HDD, maybe it will fit in the slot for the HDD that came with the 360.

[Tobes]

That's not a mod chip as such. It just lets you connect your 360 HDD to your PC.

Also dubs that pic you saw was fake. Already been discussed in the forums.

I'm going to close this thread now. Everyone has had there talk about if mod chips are right or wrong. I also don't want to see a thread when a REAL modchip is announced please.