Hahaha PS1 beats the PS3!

[phatmuther]

Haahahahaha the new ps3 controller will have motion sensors it so you can use it to controll stuff, like warhark, BUT it wont have rumble in it, they say they cant.

WELL back in 1999 (1999!) they could and did, and in warhark aswell :D

a video of it in action working fine, and NOW in 2006 (2006!) they cant :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cOBtMMWteA&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Exbox360fanboy%2Ecom%2F

HAHahahahaahahahahahaa

from
http://www.xbox360fanboy.com/2006/06/24/revolutionary-ps3-controller-used-to-rumble-in-1999/

[JJBDude]

Dear god. LOL

[Raide]

I cannot help but laugh at those videos. Odd how a Playstation magazine posted that up about the PS3. Also, I remember playing Motocross Madness with that controller. It was great fun but also very tiring after 20mins or so.

[Ryan]

haha

the ps3 gets better :D

[backin-strachan]

Haha a phrase used regularly in Glasgow.

CANTS

[RiLu@]

That one is wired PS3 new controller is wireless maybe it was a space thing or to late because of change of plans!

[Dcontrol]

Shocking! releasing old hardware as their own revolutionary new controller which doesn't vibrate...........interesting!

[WACCOE]

Haha, PS3 4tw. 8-)

[crashlock]

Yeh I smelt a total lie when they said no vibration was because it would effect the motion. It's all down to Sony losing the legal battle over the breech in copyright of the Dual Shock pad. They infringed patents to do with the rumbling. Tut tut!!

Well done that Sony fanboy for digging that pad up!! This is going to make Sony big wigs eat some words. :)

[Raisedbyflames]

im nto arsed aboutrumble or motion sensor controller. imgetting a ps3 1 year after release with all the good exclusives and it will only be for them games

[AK.]

they suck lmao

[Mez]

oMG the Ps3 suXxorz11!1

FFS, the smallest thing and the pack are out again to slaughter Sony. It stopped me posting and it doesn't look like things have changed. Get a grip.

[phatmuther]

oMG the Ps3 suXxorz11!1

FFS, the smallest thing and the pack are out again to slaughter Sony. It stopped me posting and it doesn't look like things have changed. Get a grip.
alright alright

a) this IS an xbox forum, so its to be expected
b) the smallest thing? are you not pissed that they aint having rumble?
and
c) they flat out lied

[crashlock]

oMG the Ps3 suXxorz11!1

FFS, the smallest thing and the pack are out again to slaughter Sony. It stopped me posting and it doesn't look like things have changed. Get a grip.


Because Sony have been complete asshats about the PS3 - Hardcore PS fans I've known for years are now buying or planning to buy a 360.

Rumble for me is a huge thing. If the 360 didn't have it i'd slate MS just the same.

[Mez]

alright alright

a) this IS an xbox forum, so its to be expected
b) the smallest thing? are you not that they aint having rumble?
and
c) they flat out lied

I can understand it on an xbox forum but the manner of it is so childish. If most of you are 12 years old, apologies but I don't get the impression you are from other posts in the forum.

The rumble isn't a massive thing to me, it's like you're indicator not making a clicking noise on your car, not the end of the world.

It's not in a companies best interest to announce that they've been sued by another company.

The xbox has the rumble which is an appreciated feature but the 360 is certainly not perfect. I could moan at the fact it sounds like a jet engine, but I don't. Or the fact that the LIVE interface is e, but I don't. There's been quite a lot of 360 breakages and returns but it doesn't make it a bad console. There's no doubt the same will happen with the PS3, but it's downfalls will be mentioned whereas xbox's will be ignored.

[phatmuther]

hey im with you the 360 noise is terrible, live interface i thinks ok and yes i t breaks a bloody lot.

but its just them saying they cant do it when they can and all the "fanboys" (no, not you mez) are like "yes king playstation gods"

The rumble isn't a massive thing to me, it's like you're indicator not making a clicking noise on your car, not the end of the world.
your joking right?

oh, and i dont think the way i wrote the post was childish, it was funny, so written in a funny manner

[Blaze Lord]

...I don't think the ninth 'ha' added anything to an 'amusing matter'. I'm all for bashing the PS3, but Mez's point about tone is dead-on.

[Kubrick]

I care about the future of my health, and my hands; therefore I don't mind if the PS3 does not include a rumble feature. If I have the opportunity to turn off the rumble feature on a game, I do. Arthritis isn't something I would want to live with for the sake of "rumbling" during a game.

[phatmuther]

well you know what, both of you get a sense of humour, everyone else in the thread found it funny, it was the video i was laughing at, not just the story, it was the way the guy told it from the start

[Blaze Lord]

Kubrick: I'm gonna ask you to point me to anything from an even vaguely respectable source that links a rumble feature to arthritis or RSI or just cramps. Particularly if they separated out the effect of playing a game in the first place.

Phat: I'll freely admit that the first 15 seconds of the video brought out a smirk. (Honestly, I find it hard to believe that anyone here actually laughed out loud at it, but if you insist, I'm willing to take that as possible. I'm also eager to chalk that up to perfectly acceptable personal differences.)

What I was talking about, and what (I assume) Mez was commenting on, is your original post, phat. Fifteen 'ha's did not add anything to or create a "funny manner".

On the other hand, your (1999!) and (2006!) was something approaching humor, and possibly something I would write as well, so don't think I'm commenting on that. (Although Mez probably took issue with that too.)

But since you accused me of being the one who needed to tweak his sense of humor, and I beg to differ BTW, I'll further nitpick your post:

Sony isn't the 'they' that made the controller in 1999. The controller in the video is a third party peripheral from Pellican, a fact that makes Sony's claim all the more egregious. Perhaps a '(Pellican!)' would have made your post "funny".

[phatmuther]

ok then, we both have different senses of humour, thats cool (Y)
and yes maybe my post was misleading in some aspects (Y)
:)

[Raisedbyflames]

they took rumble out of the ps3 controler because the gayscene had found agood use for it, andbrown stains dont go well with silver

[Kubrick]

Kubrick: I'm gonna ask you to point me to anything from an even vaguely respectable source that links a rumble feature to arthritis or RSI or just cramps. Particularly if they separated out the effect of playing a game in the first place.
No source or study, but if construction workers, especially the ones on the drills, are complaining about arthritis in their hands from constantly drilling pavements et cetera, it stands to reason that any sort of "rumbling" in your hands will effect your hands, not specifically beneficial. Add to this: the pressure on your hand by pressing and holding down buttons while the "rumbling" is in effect.

[Blaze Lord]

You mention 'not specifically beneficial', as though this is a nod to the large number of massage vibrators sold in, for example, high-end electronics stores. (Or to sex toys?) And that would lead me to indicate that you aren't suggesting these cause arthritis. And so, I now conclude that you believe it is only the combination of pressure and vibration.

The pressure of pulling a trigger or pressing a button on a game controller is far, far less than one would use to grip the handle and squeeze the trigger of a drill, even when just drilling into drywall, let alone concrete or pavement. In fact, most of the time you'd be tensing your whole arm. While using a jackhammer, you'd do even more- lock and tense your whole arm, in order to support and shift your body weight. This would adding even more pressure to those joints, and, maybe more importantly, to your palms.

Go sink a screw into a small piece of wood. See how white your knuckles get. Now pick up your 360 controller, and press A. Or pull the right trigger. Your knuckles won't go white.

[Kubrick]

You mention 'not specifically beneficial', as though this is a nod to the large number of massage vibrators sold in, for example, high-end electronics stores. (Or to sex toys?) And that would lead me to indicate that you aren't suggesting these cause arthritis. And so, I now conclude that you believe it is only the combination of pressure and vibration.

The pressure of pulling a trigger or pressing a button on a game controller is far, far less than one would use to grip the handle and squeeze the trigger of a drill, even when just drilling into drywall, let alone concrete or pavement. In fact, most of the time you'd be tensing your whole arm. While using a jackhammer, you'd do even more- lock and tense your whole arm, in order to support and shift your body weight. This would adding even more pressure to those joints, and, maybe more importantly, to your palms.

Go sink a screw into a small piece of wood. See how white your knuckles get. Now pick up your 360 controller, and press A. Or pull the right trigger. Your knuckles won't go white.

"not specifically beneficial" is based upon the analogy of rolling down a hill: you can't prove it isn't beneficial, but you can point out that it isn't beneficial by the simple expedient of logic: accelerate the speed and multiply the steepness of the hill and the end result is that the person dies upon impact of hitting the bottom.

It's not the pressure as you suggest, it's the repetition - example: repetition strain disorder. Are you suggesting that a player turns on his Xbox 360 controller, and presses A once? Apply the logic of accelerating the pressure and multiplying the frequency; thus the state of your hands through use of a controller that rumbles isn't beneficial, and obviating the use of the rumble feature is, to me, is thus obviating extra strain on my hands.

You and I can't prove anything, but even scientists can't prove much either: scientific studies could show that it does or doesn't harm, but, then, it's very hard to prove a theory, and easy to disprove one: one observation of fact that contradicts a theory, disproves it; whereas a theory can only be proved to be true through continuous observations that coincide with the theory.


As I've said, no source or study, just applying a bit of common-sense, just as I do not need a scientific study to know that jumping off a two-storey will not be beneficial to my state of health.

[WACCOE]

Phatmuther - you reckon it's about time to unleash our secret weapon, or we keeping it for an even stupid comment/post? :D

[Blaze Lord]

Yes, we can't prove anything in this, but I'm suggesting drawing a corollary between construction workers drilling into pavement and a gamer with a rumbling gamepad pressing A is pretty weak.

If you'll allow me to place a 'specifically beneficial' vibrator as rolling down a gentle hill, and drilling into pavement as the two-story fall, I'm suggesting that the rumble in a gamepad is that same gentle hill.

This is partly because I don't see how the rumble in the game pad has a magnifying effect on the 'logic' of pressure. But, even if that were the case, the vibrations in a gamepad are far weaker than the vibrations of a power tool, even a battery powered one. The same with the pressure. Furthermore, I don't see why I have to multiply anything. I'm not suggesting that the player presses A once. Are you suggesting the construction worker drills into pavement once?

[phatmuther]

ooooooh i dunno, he didnt say "listen, kid" or "scram" in it
its a toughie, you choose :D

[WACCOE]

I think we'll wait.

His comment in the Football thread (diving one) was gay though. :unsure:

[phatmuther]

i saw you wernt happy about that :D

[Killer 57]

Why was it "gay" because he disagreed with you?

[mjmaskrey]

I heard that those fit ladies from Benni Benassi's Satisfaction video all sued him for picking up arthritis from that job.

:)

[WACCOE]

Why was it "gay" because he disagreed with you?
Please, point out 1 post in this thread in which he disagee's with me.

[Killer 57]

Please, point out 1 post in this thread in which he disagee's with me.

Why in this Thread, you said his Comment in the Football Thread was "gay", now I'm asking you why you thought it was "gay"

[phatmuther]

I heard that those fit ladies from Benni Benassi's Satisfaction video all sued him for picking up arthritis from that job.

:)
i heard that too :D

[crashlock]

rumble rocks (Y)

[Kubrick]

His comment in the Football thread (diving one) was gay though. :unsure:

they should kick teams outta comptitions for racism to, its just effin stupid
100% agreed. Spain's national team shouldn't even be allowed into the World Cup imo. That would teach them to control their supporters wouldn't it.
Now Thornbag, what is the difference between your use of "gay" with pejoratively connotations, and Spanish fans use of hooting at Black English players?

[mjmaskrey]

I think the internet usage of the word gay and racist monkey chants etc. are worlds apart.

I gather you don't then?

:)

[Raide]

Hello all. Can you please try and keep the thread on Topic. As the title suggests it was about the PS1 beating the PS3 based upon its use of Tilt Pad on an ancient copy of Warhawk. If you have any comments that are not in harmony with the thread, please take it to PM's.

Thanks all.

[WACCOE]

Now Thornbag, what is the difference between your use of "gay" with pejoratively connotations, and Spanish fans use of hooting at Black English players?
I can't make head n' tail of that.

So i'll leave it.

Don't worry Kubrck - me and Phatmtuher know. ;););)

[phatmuther]

Don't worry Kubrck - me and Phatmtuher know. ;););)
;) ;) ;)
...............

[Blaze Lord]

Kubrick is (rightfully) pointing out your somewhat hypocritical, or at least drastically different, stances on homophobia and racism.

But back to the topic at hand, I'm way doubtful that a rumblepad contributes to arthritis more than a non-rumble, and Sony is showing its true colors in full force. Marginally useful and/or overly complicated, bloated hardware owned by Sony gets forced and piggybacked onto the PlayStation. Standard gaming hardware with clear benefits, that Sony doesn't own, gets shrugged off with a poor lie.

[Trap-Muzik]

I'm still buying one

[rydo-uk]

Another company has made a controler with the rumble for the ps3

[Blaze Lord]

A third party periph? Before launch? Not likely.

[rydo-uk]

Ive made a thread about it :)

[Blaze Lord]

Uh.. 'Immersion Offers to Rumble PS3'? Or am I missing something?

[WACCOE]

I care about the future of my health, and my hands; therefore I don't mind if the PS3 does not include a rumble feature. If I have the opportunity to turn off the rumble feature on a game, I do. Arthritis isn't something I would want to live with for the sake of "rumbling" during a game.
I just thought of somethnig with reagrds to this post - surely you always have the option in a game as to weather to turn "rumble" on/off, so arthiritis should not be worried about as you can just switch it off. Whereas people who do like rumble can choose to leave it on. :unsure:

[phatmuther]

I just thought of somethnig with reagrds to this post - surely you always have the option in a game as to weather to turn "rumble" on/off, so arthiritis should not be worried about as you can just switch it off. Whereas people who do like rumble can choose to leave it on. :unsure:
ah, yeah true, so at least the chioce would be there.

[Kubrick]

Thornbag: "therefore I don't mind if the PS3 does not include a rumble feature. If I have the opportunity to turn off the rumble feature on a game, I do."

Read.

[Steve]

Tag Team

Kubrich and Blaze vs Thornbag and Phatmuther.

We have two complete inept retarted people in the left corner and two people who would rather write 5 pages worth of writing material to belittle another person's point. Who shall win?

[Shoitaan]

ROFL
Excellent find... quite the slap in the face XD

[linkofhyrule]

Heh. At first I didn't think it was such a big deal, but I realized it was while playing GRAW. I was riding in a transport and there was a low rumble and I was like, holy crap! it feels like I'm really in the freakin transport.
I can't imagine gaming without that any more... That said, I'll still get one if Assassin's Creed is PS3-exclusive.

[Blaze Lord]

Tag Team

Kubrich and Blaze vs Thornbag and Phatmuther.

We have two complete inept retarted people in the left corner and two people who would rather write 5 pages worth of writing material to belittle another person's point. Who shall win?

Actually, I completely disagreed with Kubrick. His rumble-causes-arthritis is pretty laughable.