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Killer 57
09/May/06, 02:49 AM
There will be 2 versions, one with a 20GB Hardrive for $500, and a 60GB one for $600. For those who said the PS3 was going to be the same price as the 360 haha.

Raide
09/May/06, 02:51 AM
Thats...ermmm..pretty expensive for most people. As for their "New" Controller....hrmmm...

Raisedbyflames
09/May/06, 02:51 AM
yep and its 600 euros in euroupe so that = 410 pound but we will pay more because we get shafted by everyone

phatmuther
09/May/06, 02:52 AM
oh dear oh dear, what have they done

Raide
09/May/06, 02:52 AM
Plus games as well....this could be a very expensive Christmas for many people

Raisedbyflames
09/May/06, 02:52 AM
i wasnt impressed by any of the games apart from resistance fall of man that looked great. oh and the trailer for the game 8 days looked good

Killer 57
09/May/06, 02:54 AM
Yeah but there Launching this year, I mean they could at least have some one playing the game not some Video Bullcrap.

Raisedbyflames
09/May/06, 02:55 AM
anyhow the motion contorl;er thing looked good but the fact the guy was **** using it sugessts to me we are better off sticking to the anolog sticks in flight sims

Killer 57
09/May/06, 02:55 AM
I think Sony has proven they are the least innovative of the Big 3 by simply copying Nintendos controller and Microsoft's online service.

Raisedbyflames
09/May/06, 02:56 AM
yeah they were playing reistance fall of man, looks like a good game its graphics were < gears of war but still good

Raide
09/May/06, 02:56 AM
Heavenly Sword was the only title that I thought looked pretty cool. The rest was a little underwhelming. It was not really right to show all those games and then fire off some video footage of games looking so un-realistic. They did it right by showing gameplay and then cocked it by showing CGI again....doh! Nintendo must be fuming

Raisedbyflames
09/May/06, 02:59 AM
lol imagine if 360 conference goes look we got motion control 2 clicks his fingers and enables it on all the gamepads already out.

i think some of the cgi stuff was well good to watch i think some of it was ingame stuff

Killer 57
09/May/06, 03:02 AM
I can't wait for Microsoft's Press Conference tomorrow, Sony threw a meat pitch with there underwhelming Press Conference, all MS has to do is hit it out of the ball park.

Raisedbyflames
09/May/06, 03:03 AM
also that jungle game looked good it diddnt have aname as far as i can tell, but it looked interesting and i wasnt sure if it was ingame you can never tell with them they just dont say if its ingame if its not do they ******s.




(off subject but download the rain trailer on xbl)

Raisedbyflames
09/May/06, 03:05 AM
I can't wait for Microsoft's Press Conference tomorrow, Sony threw a meat pitch with there underwhelming Press Conference, all MS has to do is hit it out of the ball park.

yeah i agree i think i would of considerd getting a ps3 if it was a few hundred, the price isnt just steap its vertical

Killer 57
09/May/06, 03:06 AM
Looks like the Sony Fanboys are going to have to do the Dorian glitch if they want to buy a PS3 lol

Raisedbyflames
09/May/06, 03:06 AM
Proving themselves lacking any sort of original ideas whatsoever. Sony has well and truly stolen the motion detection controller from Nintendo, whilst at the same time having the gall to call it "innovative".

They also announced that the PS3 will cost between $500-$600.

I think this is what is known as self-pwn.

Edit: sorry didn't see the other thread :$
their you go mate

Raide
09/May/06, 03:14 AM
At this rate all MS have to do is just turn up to E3.

Raisedbyflames
09/May/06, 03:17 AM
to be fair im happy with my 360 and i was on fence about getting a ps3 but i think ill miss it out till it gets cheap and buy all the games that were good

Killer 57
09/May/06, 04:02 AM
http://www.r0rschach.com/black.jpg

Hmm lights to show which controler port you are, a Center button with a logo, wow how innovative Sony is.

Steve
09/May/06, 04:02 AM
This was a great sucess for the PS3. Believe it or not, but lets put it this way.

Xbox 360- 400 Dollars, using old disc technology and a 20 Gig HD.
PS3- 500 dollars using new Blu-Ray tech and a 20 Gig HD.

Blu Ray tech can cost up to 1,000k.

Controller idea looks great, but Ninty should get ****ed about their N64 stolen.

Games look stellar, and the Hard Drive is suppose to last a few years on 20 Gigs, so a 60 Gig is only needed for the Die Hard fans.

This Christmas the true winner shall arise, but now its good to see all PS3 doubts ended, since we know what it can do. It cooks pizza!

Killer 57
09/May/06, 05:01 AM
$499 PS3 = No Compact Flash, No SD, No Memory stick, No HMDI (ie. No HDTV BLU-RAY MOVIES SINCE HDMI IS A REQUIRED STANDARD FOR IT), NO WI-FI....$599 or bust?

http://www.scei.co.jp/corporate/release/pdf/060509ae.pdf

THe Annhilater
09/May/06, 05:18 AM
I think I'll get PS3 after there is a price drop. I know a lot of people will complain about the price and not buy it. I predict there will be a major price drop within 6 months of its launch.

THe Annhilater
09/May/06, 05:38 AM
Hmm I just thought of an idea on how to get enough money to get the PS3!!! I'm gonna reserve 2 of them, buy one and sell it on E Bay for $1200. Then I'll buy the other one I have reserved and it'd barley cost me any money at all.

Raisedbyflames
09/May/06, 06:16 AM
even better wait for a guy to come out the shop and jack it off him

backin-strachan
09/May/06, 07:50 AM
I was debating whether or not the 360 was the right price but I mangaged to get one but I wouldnt pay anymore than £280 but whats the PS3. £350-£450

Raisedbyflames
09/May/06, 08:04 AM
410 for the snazzy one i diddnt convert the others but here me betting we pay more witg us been the uk

AfroJoe
09/May/06, 09:41 AM
Yeah, I'd guess that'll be £450 over here, because we always get conned.

Sony have shot themselves in the foot.

But hey, I don't care. It's their problem. :D

Outlaw
09/May/06, 09:55 AM
us brits do get ripped of, so i'm sure we will get charged too much for the ps3, but by the time it comes out i will have been working for about 2 months and my college gives me 30 quid a week so i should have enough to buy it.

Tobes
09/May/06, 10:45 AM
http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2006/05/09/sony_prices_up_ps3/ (http://www.reghardware.co.uk...)

Theres a picture of the PS3 controller on there. But what I am not happy about is the price difference for an extra 40GB... I mean whats that all about?

I will get one when there < £300.

But what do you guys think about the fact that they have gotten rid of the rummble? I think it adds to gameplay like when picking locks or feeling vibrations of someone near by.

EDIT: "Not all these features will be available in both models: the low-end box appears to lack Wi-Fi, HDMI and the card reader." - The Register

kazzer
09/May/06, 10:49 AM
If your looking to by a PS3 here in England your looking at paying £342 for the 20 GB pack and £410 for the 60GB pack, to be honest that alright though I can't understand why they need to charge an extra £70 for 40GB more space.

Anyway these prices aren't astronomically high and considering they have chosen November as the US launch date, people are prepared to pay anything at that time of year.

Kazzer

Raisedbyflames
09/May/06, 11:41 AM
well 400 is steep i meen im not willing to pay that

Outlaw
09/May/06, 12:35 PM
no rumble, are you serious thats bloody rediculous, i agree with tobez the rumble adds to the gameplay, i cant believe that.

RiLu@
09/May/06, 12:47 PM
I will buy the for what it is, maybe because of being a Blue-ray player.

...if the Blue-ray tec comes up on the market...

... it has been some much bad news about this High Definition war that even the porno industry will have a word to say, because it's going to use only one side.

Raisedbyflames
09/May/06, 12:53 PM
yeah i remember reading somwwhere they coul feed the whole 3rd world for 1 week on the usas ---- market

AfroJoe
09/May/06, 12:59 PM
If your looking to by a PS3 here in England your looking at paying £342 for the 20 GB pack and £410 for the 60GB pack, to be honest that alright though I can't understand why they need to charge an extra £70 for 40GB more space.

They'll never actually retail at £342 and £410 over here, though. They'll be about £375 and £450 respectively, because the UK gets royally screwed as far as the games market goes.

Raisedbyflames
09/May/06, 01:14 PM
at 17.55 vat as well aj

WACCOE
09/May/06, 04:05 PM
A joke. Who is going to dish out that much?

Halo3Sniper01
09/May/06, 04:42 PM
dont care still getting the PS3 cause they have game MS will never have

smileemptysoul
09/May/06, 05:11 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/expo_sony_dc
$499 in US man their ripping u guys off

PublicEnemy#1
09/May/06, 06:08 PM
Ill be getting the ps3 but not as soon as it comes out

JJBDude
09/May/06, 08:57 PM
Is the Wii coming out before Christmas too? If so and it's much cheaper than the PS3 I'll buy that, then wait till Christmas 2007 to get the PS3. :(

AfroJoe
09/May/06, 09:55 PM
Might as well not get a PS3 at all.

GTA4 is MS exclusive.

Hahahahaha.

Sony have been pwned!

phatmuther
09/May/06, 09:56 PM
GTA4 is not a ms 'exclusive' its out the same day as the ps3 version, but we get exclusive downloadable episodic missions and shizel

AfroJoe
09/May/06, 10:01 PM
Ah well, they're still pwned anyway.

It was originally planned as a PS3-only title anyway, so it's still a major steal for Microsoft.

Blaze Lord
09/May/06, 10:09 PM
It's too soon for Blu-Ray to be as big a deal as PS2's DVD. Get off the Beta-ray ****.

Killer 57
11/May/06, 02:25 AM
An Intresting Read on Sony's E3 Press Confrence

http://blogcritics.org/archives/2006/05/09/011825.php

Mez
11/May/06, 11:30 AM
I'll be getting one on release, considering it has a blu-ray drive built in which would usually cost $1000 it's hardly a rip-off. But I guess this kind of reaction was expected on an xbox forum.

Tobes
11/May/06, 11:48 AM
I agree with the fact that it's good money for a blue ray player. But you have to think is this type of media going to be a hit vs hd dvd. Also IMO it's a games console first and blue ray is no benifit when it comes to gaming.

I am going to be biased though. In my experiance sonys media has never taken off. It's high priced and it doesn't offer what other media can.

phatmuther
11/May/06, 11:48 AM
yeah but for those of use who dont particulary care about a bluray drive, and those that dont have a hd tv or need to watch bluray movies in uber res since normal dvd is fine, it is a stupid price, the should make one with a dvd drive and not make all the games on bluray. they'd sell a whole lot more

Dcontrol
11/May/06, 12:07 PM
Ill be getting the ps3 but not as soon as it comes out

I'll probably be the same. But it does depend on how much they retail at.

Blaze Lord
11/May/06, 01:44 PM
$500 and $600, unless a store's gouging you with a bundle.

phatmuther
11/May/06, 01:53 PM
we want a uk price, not us or euro, it always differs alot

Mez
11/May/06, 04:01 PM
I agree with the fact that it's good money for a blue ray player. But you have to think is this type of media going to be a hit vs hd dvd. Also IMO it's a games console first and blue ray is no benifit when it comes to gaming.

I am going to be biased though. In my experiance sonys media has never taken off. It's high priced and it doesn't offer what other media can.

Put it this way though, if Blu-ray dies (which I expect it will) then your player would become defunct, whereas the PS3 can still be used for gaming so it's not a massive risk to take.

I reckon i'll probably wait a while with regards to buying next gen movies though.

Blaze Lord
11/May/06, 05:23 PM
we want a uk price, not us or euro, it always differs alot

They've only announced in yen, Euros, and US dollars. But it's 500 and 600 Euros, and 500 and 600 dollars. Would 500 and 600 pounds make sense, given that? Unfortunately yes.

phatmuther
11/May/06, 05:29 PM
if its £500/£600 no one will buy it, not even fanboys they wont have enough money, if they launch at that price here it will hurt them bad

Blaze Lord
11/May/06, 05:35 PM
Well, we already know that a straight conversion won't work. What are Blu-Ray players gonna run you in pounds?

Mez
11/May/06, 10:04 PM
I would imagine around £600.

If it's £600 for the PS3, that's pushing it and I reckon i'd probably pass on it.

Blaze Lord
11/May/06, 10:05 PM
Well, they'd make it cheaper than a stand-alone Blu-Ray player.

mjmaskrey
12/May/06, 12:13 AM
We get robbed everyone knows it.....if it's USD $500-600 then we have to pay £500-600....they always go like for like on consoles and certain electronics rather than a price conversion.

:)

Raisedbyflames
12/May/06, 12:16 AM
it diddnt on 360 for a change but it did in the games

Dcontrol
12/May/06, 12:34 AM
We get robbed everyone knows it.....if it's USD $500-600 then we have to pay £500-600....they always go like for like on consoles and certain electronics rather than a price conversion.

:)

If that is the case and it is around £500-£600 then I know what Sony can do with it! They can bloody well keep it for that price!

phatmuther
12/May/06, 12:37 AM
yep they wont sell many at that price, especially if the wii comes along sub £200 and the 360's at £210 - £280. if i didnt have the 360 and had a choice of either to buy just the PS3 or buy both the 360 and wii, well i think you can answer that

Killer 57
12/May/06, 12:58 AM
The sad part is, all those Fanboys keep leing to themselves, they try and BS the selves into justifing the $600 Price tag.

Mez
12/May/06, 01:04 AM
But $600 is a perfectly reasonable price tag for what you're getting, so your point is caller?

Blaze Lord
12/May/06, 01:08 AM
That Sony forces too many marginally useful capabilities onto the PS3, and has to jack up prices. Reminiscent of the Neo Geo.

Killer 57
12/May/06, 01:14 AM
The Shock value will ware off. I remember before I got my 360 I was soo excited off all the new features. Once I got my 360 and days later, I realised that yeah all the features are cool and all but in the end Video Game Consoles are about video games, that mean gaming not this whole Entertainment hub but games. Now for the games is the PS3 worth $300 or $200 more then the 360? The short answere to that is no.

Mez
12/May/06, 01:59 AM
But it's the gamers choice if they want to fork out the extra money for the PS3, doesn't make them fanboys.

I do agree with you that at the end of the day I want a games console which is why the Wii doens't interest me, why pretend to be throwing a football in Madden Wii when you can just go outside and actually play it?

Killer 57
12/May/06, 03:00 AM
But it's the gamers choice if they want to fork out the extra money for the PS3, doesn't make them fanboys.

I do agree with you that at the end of the day I want a games console which is why the Wii doens't interest me, why pretend to be throwing a football in Madden Wii when you can just go outside and actually play it?

Yeah thats one of the reasons I'm not getting a "Wii", feels like more of a gimmick to me.

Blaze Lord
12/May/06, 03:24 AM
More than a few people expressed similar doubts about the DS, but I think Nintendo did a good job there.

And it's really hard to argue for the setup that Sony has made for it's two versions.

Killer 57
12/May/06, 04:53 AM
Yeah but some of the Best Games on the DS barely use the touch screen capabilities.

Blaze Lord
12/May/06, 05:34 AM
Even so, you still couldn't say the DS is just a gimmick. The Nintendo kiosk lines at E3 have 1000-2000 people on line. I would bet most of them walk away happy and looking forward to purchasing one, otherwise the line simply wouldn't sustain a 4 hour wait. Stupid name aside, Nintendo's definitely stealing the show this year, and probably for good reason.

Killer 57
12/May/06, 05:35 AM
True, I guess I will have to try it out for myself to give any real opinion about it.

Blaze Lord
12/May/06, 05:41 AM
It's the right thing to do. And if it costs just 3 X360 games as opposed to 8 or 10.. Hard to resist.

Killer 57
12/May/06, 05:44 AM
Yeah about that, I have a gutt feeling that the Wii will be $250, I have no real facts to back that up, but I did have a feeling the 360 would be $400.

Blaze Lord
12/May/06, 05:50 AM
Mmmmaybe. But my gut tells me that the motion sensor stuff costs far less than all the RAM and the multithreaded processors that both the 360 and the PS3 have. Which means it shouldn't cost Nintendo much more than the Gamecube, and so I'm thinking a $200 might be possible.

Regardless, the big issue here is Sony's completely goofed up price structure.

The $500 has 20 GB hard drive, no HDMI. The $600 has a 60 GB, and b/g wireless, media card readers, and the HDMI.

Now, Sony is going to tout this as a cheap Blu-Ray player, like the PS2 was for DVDs. But it's not. The lack of HDMI means that the only way to have a 'future proof' Blu-Ray player is to buy the $600. Well now it's not that cheap, PLUS you have to pay for the b/g wireless adapter and the media card readers and the bigger hard drive. (And if you use media cards, chances are you likely have a USB reader anyways.)

Microsoft has handled it much more nicely. If you want HD DVD, you don't need to pay for a hard drive at all, you definitely don't need to pay for a wireless adapter, and I'm pretty sure a non-360 specific USB media card reader would be recognized by the 360's USB ports.

Killer 57
12/May/06, 06:14 AM
I think Sony did make a mistake pricing it so high, yeah the Fanboys will buy it and those who feel the PS3 is worth the money will buy it. But they are going to lose the Mainstream gamer. Why do I believe this? Well in my Computer Class the people in there are as trendy as they get, they visit Myspace, listien to the lates music which is crap, and dress like wannbe gangsters. You guys won't believe some of the comments that come out of there mouths, let me give you a taste:

"Xbox paid Playstation to come out later"

" Halo will be on the Playstation 3, you don't know man, those Chinese are crazy!"

"[On GTA coming to Xbox]Why does Xbox always have to copy playstation?

"[When I said I have an Xbox 360] Dude there was a recall, all of them are defeactive!"

" The PS3 is awesome my Uncle bought one from Japan! I played it!"

^^^ this kid swore on his life that his Uncle had a PS3 that he bought from Japan, wow.

But When I showed them the $600 Price tag

"Pleeeze I' aint going to pay that, Games are gay anywaze"

And back to Myspace they go.

Blaze Lord
12/May/06, 06:15 AM
Hahahahaaa.

kazzer
12/May/06, 08:56 AM
Okay though it seems rather unlikely but the naming of nintendos new console could be part of some form of advertising scheme. I have sevel friends that aren't into gaming in any shape or form but when hearing reviews of what has been happening at E3 the one console name that has stuck in there minds. So as stupid as "Wii" may sound it may have given Nintendo the edge they need to become a top contendor for next generation consoles.

phatmuther
12/May/06, 11:24 AM
I think Sony did make a mistake pricing it so high, yeah the Fanboys will buy it and those who feel the PS3 is worth the money will buy it. But they are going to lose the Mainstream gamer. Why do I believe this? Well in my Computer Class the people in there are as trendy as they get, they visit Myspace, listien to the lates music which is crap, and dress like wannbe gangsters. You guys won't believe some of the comments that come out of there mouths, let me give you a taste:

"Xbox paid Playstation to come out later"

" Halo will be on the Playstation 3, you don't know man, those Chinese are crazy!"

"[On GTA coming to Xbox]Why does Xbox always have to copy playstation?

"[When I said I have an Xbox 360] Dude there was a recall, all of them are defeactive!"

" The PS3 is awesome my Uncle bought one from Japan! I played it!"

^^^ this kid swore on his life that his Uncle had a PS3 that he bought from Japan, wow.

But When I showed them the $600 Price tag

"Pleeeze I' aint going to pay that, Games are gay anywaze"

And back to Myspace they go.
and you say these guys are in school? Wow

Dcontrol
12/May/06, 12:45 PM
http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=64676

Read that the guy thinks that the PS3 is too cheaply priced :zip:

Blaze Lord
12/May/06, 03:16 PM
Okay though it seems rather unlikely but the naming of nintendos new console could be part of some form of advertising scheme. I have sevel friends that aren't into gaming in any shape or form but when hearing reviews of what has been happening at E3 the one console name that has stuck in there minds. So as stupid as "Wii" may sound it may have given Nintendo the edge they need to become a top contendor for next generation consoles.

How much of that is the name, and how much of that is just having an innovative system? Do you think that if they heard reviews of what's been happening at E3 about something called 'Revolution', it wouldn't stick in their minds?

Killer 57
12/May/06, 03:20 PM
http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=64676

Read that the guy thinks that the PS3 is too cheaply priced :zip:

Man Ken Kutaragi, that guy amazez me,

Things like next-generation graphics and various services via the network. And, , we believe people who like games will, without question, purchase it."

Sorry dude I'm already doing that with my 360 and $200 cheaper.

Blaze Lord
12/May/06, 03:31 PM
Yup. He's a douche.

I didn't watch the Sony conference, because it's bad enough watching geeks act like politicians when I like them, let alone when I.. don't. Did they show any of these various network services working in action, like Microsoft did for Live Anywhere?

Blaze Lord
18/May/06, 06:00 PM
Official UK Price Confirmed!

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=17105

£425. Have fun, guys.

Oh, by the by:

"GBP 425 is definitely not a mass-market price, no," Maguire conceded. "But you think about the price, think about the price of just a Blu-Ray player. It will be cheaper than a Blu-Ray player just by itself. So fundamentally we're going to be great value just from that point of view without even looking at the games side."

Not a mass-market price. Without even looking at the games side. I think this paints an adequate picture of Sony's PS3 strategy. Can focusing on something besides the games side, with a non-mass-market price really maintain a dominant market share?

Also, Maguire gives some indications that "Maybe the early adopter price for PlayStation 3 is really upwards of £2,000, given that retail has a great opportunity to drive HDTV TV sales." http://www.mcvuk.com/newsitem.php?id=1036

Oh, and I found this little number.
http://pics.livejournal.com/bluntdoctor/pic/0003bhy5
These prices have been adjusted for US Dollars inflation. If we consider the modern era to start with the NES, then nothing at or above the PS3's price point has done well.

Blaze Lord
18/May/06, 06:29 PM
From Joystiq:
http://www.joystiq.com/2006/05/18/uk-playstation-3-comes-in-at-425-sony-loses-its-marbles/
Here's a breakdown of the U.K. premium over U.S. and EU prices:

* £109 more than the U.S. "Premium" PS3: the U.S. price is $599 which converts to £316. Take this away from £425 and you're left with a £109 premium.
* £20 more than the EU "Premium" PS3: the EU price is 599 EUR which converts to £405. Take this away from £425 and you're left with a £20 premium

Now check out the price when compared to the Xbox 360:

* £146 more than Xbox 360 Premium: the Xbox 360 Premium is £279. Take away this figure from the PS3's £425 price and you're left with a £146 premium.
* £206 more than Xbox 360 Core: the Xbox 360 Core is £219. Take away this figure from the PS3's £425 price and you're left with a £206 premium.

derekm91
06/Jun/06, 12:54 AM
There will be 2 versions, one with a 20GB Hardrive for $500, and a 60GB one for $600. For those who said the PS3 was going to be the same price as the 360 haha.

sony is out of there fricken tree

HotFish
06/Jun/06, 03:51 PM
Posted this on another thread. dont know if anyone has seen this? if i have posted this again sorry.

Cya

Crazy prices but the only chance of getting one prob' is to buy a bundle.

:geek:

http://www.play.com/Games/PlayStation3/NAVSUB/5-/RegionHome.html

dazzie1986
08/Jun/06, 09:38 PM
Those prices are crazy. But as it stands, theres no games on the PS3 that would convice me to get one. Especially ones that the 360 will have at some point anyway.

Sony i feel have been too adventerous and its backfired.

crashlock
09/Jun/06, 06:37 AM
No one i've spoken to even wants Blue Ray, they want to play games! so thats an expensive games machine..

dazzie1986
09/Jun/06, 01:35 PM
Apparently even the developers dont want it :D

D4VY
09/Jun/06, 06:41 PM
xbox ftw!!!

Blaze Lord
09/Jun/06, 11:07 PM
Apparently even the developers dont want it
Where'd you read this?
No one i've spoken to even wants Blue Ray, they want to play games! so thats an expensive games machine..Well.. Only a small portion of the market has been informed about BRD, and high-def saturation is nowhere near peaking. However, since that won't happen for at least a year, this -is- poorly timed. Sony hasn't remembered every lesson from PS2's DVD.

crashlock
10/Jun/06, 04:11 AM
I think there gonna get to about March and start realizing what mess they have got themselves into. Even when people start getting a whiff of Blue Ray there not going to jump straight onto the wagon. It's gonna take years for such a switch if it happens at all! I'm not so sure if people will pay all that cash on movie collections when there's really not a world of difference like there was with DVD and VHS. PS2 arrived just on the edge of the switch to DVD. PS3 is arriving pretty much at the beginning of the HD movie era. I don't think it can afford to be, because of the fast world of video games. It's pushing to far too fast. And lets face it, big capacity disks don't really effect gaming a whole lot. Developers can just span it over a couple of DVDs if they really need the room. :)

Steve
10/Jun/06, 04:40 PM
Jesus I keep trying to tell you this, there is a reason why BD is on the PS3. Its not just meant to be a movie player, it will improve the way the PS3 games are made in both video quality, quicker load times, and much more graphic cability. But I believe they could of done this without the BD, and making the PS3's price more...on earth.

Raide
10/Jun/06, 06:16 PM
Jesus I keep trying to tell you this, there is a reason why BD is on the PS3. Its not just meant to be a movie player, it will improve the way the PS3 games are made in both video quality, quicker load times, and much more graphic cability. But I believe they could of done this without the BD, and making the PS3's price more...on earth.

Sony seem to be pushing the PS3 as a multimedia console, not a games console. Sony said that people would buy the PS3 even if it did not have games so it shows how much faith they are putting in the console just being a home entertainment system.

The Storage of a BluRay disk is huge but its up to the devs to make it good. Wait until crap is churned out on the PS3 and then the benifit of the BluRay disk looks pointless. The bigger games get, the longer the load times will be, regardless of the read speed of the drive. If someone fills a BluRay disc, it will acees slower than a half full disk. Its not the size that counts, its what devs do with it *laughs* The Disk makes no odds to the graphics at all it just gives developers more space for content Graphics could be just as good churned out on DVD. It's the GPU inside it, mixed with all the other tech inside the PS3 that makes games look good.

Blaze Lord
11/Jun/06, 03:38 AM
Jesus I keep trying to tell you this, there is a reason why BD is on the PS3. Its not just meant to be a movie player, it will improve the way the PS3 games are made in both video quality, quicker load times, and much more graphic cability. But I believe they could of done this without the BD, and making the PS3's price more...on earth.

And I keep trying to tell you look at the read speeds of Blu-Ray compared to the 360's DVD. Quicker load times is a ridiculous notion. The extra space on the disc it won't affect video quality at all, only length, and graphic capability seems to have very little to do with storage space.

Steve
11/Jun/06, 04:07 AM
Its almost 5x the speed if you look at charts on IGN. I dont support BR, but it will make things a little better, but not by much.

Killer 57
11/Jun/06, 04:14 AM
You got a Link to this Chart?

Steve
11/Jun/06, 04:42 AM
http://gear.ign.com/articles/638/638671p1.html Not a chart but a good comparision.

Blaze Lord
11/Jun/06, 03:24 PM
Okay. Even though the article is full of 'may' and 'could', and has no idea if the Sony's drive is 1x, 2x, or 4x, why don't you go tell us how many Mbps is a 12x DVD.

I'll save you the trouble.
http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/4716/dvdvsbdrs1af.png

ONLY if the PS3 comes with a 4x drive, of which the article only decides there are things that "gives hope to" this fact, will it be faster than the 360's 12x DVD. Only if it's 4x. Ok? OK. 1x and 2x is slower than a 12x DVD.

crashlock
12/Jun/06, 06:14 AM
A Blue Ray 4x is pretty close to a 12x DVD tho :) *breathes sigh of relief*

Blaze Lord
12/Jun/06, 10:24 PM
Mmmm. Only sorta. Truth be told, DVD read speeds almost never achieve their maximum.

backin-strachan
12/Jun/06, 10:28 PM
But do you care your speed when your watching a film or playing a game???

I dont care the speed or whatever as long as its "quality" hard/software Im using then Im happy!!!


:D

Blaze Lord
12/Jun/06, 10:43 PM
Watching a film? Probably not. Playing a game? Yeah. Load times, remember?

Tobes
12/Jun/06, 11:12 PM
Yeh defo load times. 4x will be slooooooooow. Just try putting a 4x DVD reader in a PC which is a nice spec and running.... some sort of game which doesnt run off the hard drive... yeh that might be hard lol.

You get the idea though. But I'm guessing the PS3 will make use of that bigger HDD and cache lots.

backin-strachan
12/Jun/06, 11:14 PM
Oh well I didnt know. Am I the only one that doesnt multiply the discs or whatever:p

Blaze Lord
12/Jun/06, 11:37 PM
Yeh defo load times. 4x will be slooooooooow. Just try putting a 4x DVD reader in a PC which is a nice spec and running.... some sort of game which doesnt run off the hard drive... yeh that might be hard lol.

You get the idea though. But I'm guessing the PS3 will make use of that bigger HDD and cache lots.

Will be? Cache lots? The PS3 isn't having a 4x DVD drive. It's Blu-Ray, and, 1x DVD < 1x Blu-Ray. Or am I misunderstanding some typo.

Am I the only one that doesnt multiply the discs or whatever

Multiply the discs?

derekm91
16/Jun/06, 04:08 PM
If I get a PS3 I am going to wait a year or two for the price to go down. It's just too damn expensive.

Killer 57
27/Dec/06, 08:56 AM
Yeah about that, I have a gutt feeling that the Wii will be $250, I have no real facts to back that up, but I did have a feeling the 360 would be $400.

Mmmmaybe. But my gut tells me that the motion sensor stuff costs far less than all the RAM and the multithreaded processors that both the 360 and the PS3 have. Which means it shouldn't cost Nintendo much more than the Gamecube, and so I'm thinking a $200 might be possible.


I believe I am owed an apology, Blaze. It told you man, my gut is never wrong, that's something me and Steve Colbert share, intelligent guts.

brighty1054
29/Dec/06, 10:08 PM
ok then (i'm brighty1045 just can't remember my password)
i should soon be getting the ps3.

Blaze Lord
29/Dec/06, 10:15 PM
I believe I am owed an apology, Blaze. It told you man, my gut is never wrong, that's something me and Steve Colbert share, intelligent guts.
Pssh, please.