Rule Change.

[ArtfulDodger]

Can i ask why it is Default maps, and AR start.

I meen Maulers on the map takes no skill.

Can it not be changed to MLG Setting or even make your own.
BR start etc, no duals.

If the staff are willing to consider this then i am more than willing to help with editing maps as i have knowledge of halo etc

bc_mike_e@hotmail.co.uk

Also if anyone agrees with me then just post here.

[TricKi]

yer i think they should be change as its all shotguns and they are bad use ur own or use mlg easy as.

[ArtfulDodger]

Yeah exactly what im saying.
To see better competition within the teams you want to take away the the maulers, duals etc and make it br start, or even have AR start BR secondary.

[Snipa]

AR start lol.
Beast, cant wait to find kids hiding in a corner spraying away haha.

[TricKi]

Br Ftw

[Wriggy]

You're supposed to agree with the rules when you sign up, like a contract.

*Still looking for a partner*

And never post your email address on a public forum. It's just looking to be spammed!

[ArtfulDodger]

You're supposed to agree with the rules when you sign up, like a contract.

*Still looking for a partner*

Yeah i no i will play them, just there are better rule varients than what are being played.

[Wriggy]

Yeah i no i will play them, just there are better rule varients than what are being played.

That comes down to opinion. It's like picking Spice Girls and saying Westlife are better ;)

[Sean]

The rules are fine. The defaults aren't just random ya'kno.

If you can't play with what you're given then are you really any good?

[ArtfulDodger]

What so you thnk i can't play with them?
I can but there IS A BETTER ALTERNATIVE SET OF RULES

[Sean]

In your opinion a better alternative.

And I didn't say you can't play with those rules.

[Joe]

Don't think any of you should have a say in the rules tbh, no matter how good you are at halo or how well you know it. It's a console monster tournament and you've just signed up to play, no other reason.

[Project-Cooper]

If you have modified maps, then the person that modified it will know where all the weapons will be. Its obvious as to why its Normal Maps (No Forge).

[TricKi]

thats y u put them on fileshare and ppl can play them befor the tounement start but if u ask ppl whats the best start is and they would say BR because they take more skill.

[Sean]

BR takes no more skill than the AR.

Firstly BR has a scope which gives it an advantage over an AR.

[ArtfulDodger]

If you have modified maps, then the person that modified it will know where all the weapons will be. Its obvious as to why its Normal Maps (No Forge).

If it wernt random maps then who ever is in charge off this tournemant would publish them on there file share and people would download and pratice on them maps via custom games. And beleive me the majority of players that play halo 3 prefer to play BR starts. Look at MLG and its fanbase and XL, in both online and LAN events they play BR start as it is a fairer and at a higher skill level than to playing with an AR, eg : headshots etc.

And its fairer because if for instance you were on isolation and the other team picked up the BR and you didnt and died when you respawned if they were good enough off course they would dominate you literally. They would dominate you if they were good enough because if your playing a large map like Iso an AR cannot compete with a BR.
Therfore if everyone spawned with a BR then as soon as you spawn you can compete with players cross map.

Thanks Mike.
Also anyone feel free to add me zT Earlzy.

[Sean]

Well there's a reason why there's no BR starts.

And its fairer because if for instance you were on isolation and the other team picked up the BR and you didnt and died when you respawned if they were good enough off course they would dominate you literally. They would dominate you if they were good enough because if your playing a large map like Iso an AR cannot compete with a BR.

What's the point in entering the tourny if a few MLG wannabe's register (solely for the tourny) and dominate with the BR?

[ArtfulDodger]

Well there's a reason why there's no BR starts.



What's the point in entering the tourny if a few MLG wannabe's register (solely for the tourny) and dominate with the BR?

Na because if both teams start with BR its unlucky one team will dominate unless one team is extremly better than the other teams.

And how am i an MLG Wannabee or anyone else who plays and follows MLG?

[Project-Cooper]

Rules are rules. Deal with them.

Why do they need to change just to focus on your "playing style" and cater around you?

[TricKi]

wow every one add me and i show u how much skill it takes with a BR. u start with a AR and i use a BR and i bet u would not win.

[TricKi]

yer rules are rules we no that but we was only asking if they can be changed.

[Sean]

You seem to like MLG alot. I dunno, just guessing.

Why do they need to change just to focus on your "playing style" and cater around you?

That's the main point in my case.

Thanks Cooper.

Edit:

wow every one add me and i show u how much skill it takes with a BR. u start with a AR and i use a BR and i bet u would not win.

What sense does that make? It completely contradicts what Dodger was saying about the BR being better for the fairness.

[ArtfulDodger]

You seem to like MLG alot. I dunno, just guessing.



That's the main point in my case.

Thanks Cooper.

Edit:



What sense does that make? It completely contradicts what Dodger was saying about the BR being better for the fairness.

No it doesn't read back whatt hs been written.

[TricKi]

u guys are the ones that camp and use mauls

[Snipa]

The BR is much fairer and its not to cater for our needs.
Its more of the fact that the BR is a short-mid-long distance weapon where as the AR is a short distance weapon which isnt fair and also makes the melee system f up.

With the BR everyone is even unless you obviously cannot use the BR so need to spray and pray with the AR.
Eg on maps like Guardian or The Pit who ever has the snipers will win at distance so u might aswell not move and just wait with a AR, which then makes completly pointless games.
You might aswell just sit in a corner with maulers its that stupid.

If you have a BR you can actually attemp to stop the sniper and push around the maps isntead of having to camp in one corner of the map with a CLOSE range weapon.

[TricKi]

trust me BR start is the best used on H1 H2 and H3 by all top websites like EGC , XL , MLG , MatchBox360 the best way to make the game fair AR vs BR BR would win end off

[Snipa]

If you have modified maps, then the person that modified it will know where all the weapons will be. Its obvious as to why its Normal Maps (No Forge).

Thats why the STAFF modify them, put them on fileshare and let people practice with them in advance to make a much fairer skillful game.

The only reason i think its normal maps is so ppl can camp with duel maulers and be pro (Y)

[ArtfulDodger]

Yeah thanks fir the back-up lads.

Right now tbh im not arsed about the AR to much i'll just pick up a BR when possible.
But maulers are so lame and i garentuee by keeping these weapons on spawn people will camp with them.

[TricKi]

can i ask do u guys play any customs or just play matchmaking as in mostly every one customs there are BR starts

[Project-Cooper]

trust me BR start is the best used on H1 H2 and H3 by all top websites like EGC , XL , MLG , MatchBox360 the best way to make the game fair AR vs BR BR would win end off

There goes someone again. No one gives a ---- about other "top" websites.

Its ConsoleMonsters Tournament, not other peoples. ConsoleMonster's Rules, not other peoples. Why can't you just play by these rules?

[TricKi]

can i ask the staff to play BR start and then you will see what we are on about

[Fusion]

Tbh I play pit often
It's one of my favourite maps
But there are alternate ways around maps without getting sniped
It's not about the weapons, it's about the skill with weapons. If you're rubbish at using close range weapons, thats your fault
And really, you're jsut here for the tournament
not to become part of the community so i don't think you really have a say it what rules go into a tournament for a community you aren't really part of

And with the other top websites thing
We are a small website ok?
we don't want to have large scale tournaments like those websites
This is jsut a bit of fun
If you're so bothered about the tournament go join one of these other wesbite tournys

[TricKi]

i will play these rules but u will moan about the BR rape i will be doin end off all we are doin is tryin to make the game more fair but o well your loss.

[Snipa]

Ill play with the rules i wanted a more fair tournament thats all.
Ill still rape everyone anyway and no i dont suck with close range weapons (Y)

Also come on pit with defualt rules and ill get the snipe and lets see u get around the map.

[Fusion]

It's 2v2 games!
It will only be small maps being used anyway
AR is much better to use for smaller games

[ArtfulDodger]

Tbh I play pit often
It's one of my favourite maps
But there are alternate ways around maps without getting sniped
It's not about the weapons, it's about the skill with weapons. If you're rubbish at using close range weapons, thats your fault
And really, you're jsut here for the tournament
not to become part of the community so i don't think you really have a say it what rules go into a tournament for a community you aren't really part of

And with the other top websites thing
We are a small website ok?
we don't want to have large scale tournaments like those websites
This is jsut a bit of fun
If you're so bothered about the tournament go join one of these other wesbite tournys

How are we not here to be part off the community, you guys are taking this the wrong way, i'm not saying i don't want to play these rules, i was suggesting changing them , but you guys go on the defensive straight away.
Pathetic.

[TricKi]

did you guys read that SUGGESTING not sayin SUGGESTING.

[Snipa]

It's 2v2 games!
It will only be small maps being used anyway
AR is much better to use for smaller games


Epitaph - Small
Guardian - Small
High Ground - Big
Isolation - HUGE
Narrows - Medium
The Pit - Medium

[Fusion]

I apologise for my rant
but it did seems half way through the first page that you were sort of demanding we change them and starting an argument with other members
Can i just add
Isolation isn't huge
it's probably around the same size as High Ground

[ArtfulDodger]

And i also love how your playing for "FUN",
This is a competive competition ( you will have fun playing it off course )

but if you want to just play for fun and not to win then go play zombies on sandtrap.

[ArtfulDodger]

I apologise for my rant
but it did seems half way through the first page that you were sort of demanding we change them and starting an argument with other members
Can i just add
Isolation isn't huge
it's probably around the same size as High Ground

Ok High Ground = HUGE.

[TricKi]

are the staff be goin to make the maps and settings so every one can download if not then i think if we play with BR they cant do much as no maps or settings was given to download.

[Fusion]

And i also love how your playing for "FUN",
This is a competive competition ( you will have fun playing it off course )

but if you want to just play for fun and not to win then go play zombies on sandtrap.

Yes it is competitive
but not in a MLG way
which means most of us know each other, we all get along making it mroe fun than competitive
and also please don't make sarcastic comments
It just leads to arguments

EDIT
The settings were sent out a while ago, but it should be on carocats file share area under 2v2 cm touney or something similar :D

[Wriggy]

To be honest, if you sign up for a tournament and not agree to the rules, it's like signing up for a race and trying to argue you deserve a headstart because you prefer it.

Don't agree with the rules, don't enter. There's loads of people who'd like to enter... *not going to name names*

[Project-Cooper]

are the staff be goin to make the maps and settings so every one can download if not then i think if we play with BR they cant do much as no maps or settings was given to download.


Read...

Please read the below rules carefully. Ignorance could lead to the disqualification of your team.

The correct Gametype can also be downloaded via fileshare [slot 2, labelled: CM 2v2 comp] from the 'Fear the CAT' account. Link to the download via Bungie.net here. (http://www.bungie.net/stats/Halo3/FileShare.aspx?gamertag=Fear%20the%20CAT)

(Y)

[TricKi]

thats for the link

[Snipa]

To be honest, if you sign up for a tournament and not agree to the rules, it's like signing up for a race and trying to argue you deserve a headstart because you prefer it.

Don't agree with the rules, don't enter. There's loads of people who'd like to enter... *not going to name names*

Dont you wish life was that easy?

[ArtfulDodger]

To be honest, if you sign up for a tournament and not agree to the rules, it's like signing up for a race and trying to argue you deserve a headstart because you prefer it.

Don't agree with the rules, don't enter. There's loads of people who'd like to enter... *not going to name names*

WOW, I do agree with the rules but it would be better in my OPINION if they were tweaked a little, and as i said earlier i was suggesting a change not saying the current rules are ---- and i will not play them.

If you havent understood this for the 3rd/4th time do not hesitate to pm me.

[ArtfulDodger]

To be honest, if you sign up for a tournament and not agree to the rules, "it's like signing up for a race and trying to argue you deserve a headstart because you prefer it."Don't agree with the rules, don't enter. There's loads of people who'd like to enter... *not going to name names*

ROFL, No, maybe if i said something like only my team get to start with OS and Rockets.

With what i suggested EVERYBODY started with the same weapons therefore no one had a headstart, and tbh giving everyone a head start in a race would be pretty pointless im sure you'd agree.

Read this 2 over and before posting back make sure you havent misenterpretated it.

[ArtfulDodger]

^^ And that last line wasn't sarcastic either.

[Fleeboi]

I'd say the majority of the teams entered are randoms. Which ----s the "community tournament" right up from the get go. CM isn't given back to the community, it's catering for the people who couldn't give a ----.

I am however for BR starts, the majority of maps that are played are suited for mid-long range games. If someone spawn camps Narrows, taking the opposite side's BRs then you'll see just how much "fun" it's gonna be.

But for the person saying he's gonna rape anyone anyway.... stfu, stop assuming you're going to own just because some prefer AR starts. I'd lmao if you got schooled by the teams that aren't Halo junkies.

[Fusion]

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